Subject	didn't mention properly also>>>
Posted by	Altersys on September 26, 2002 at 5:59 PM
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In Reply To	EXACTLY.... what I am trying to say is>>> posted by Altersys on September 26, 2002 at 05:44 PM
Message	that those two hypothetical subwoofers should have identicaly T-S parameters, save for the obvious ones... in that case, the 15 would indeed have a slower response time than the 10.... however, this lag is much smaller than the period of the highest frequency that a subwoofer will be asked to play which is why audio nerds say "size doesn't matter" when it comes to sloppiness... when you hear a sloppy system you are hearing the group delay of the system not being optimized... but usually the upside is out-and-out SPL. Again, like I said before, most 15" systems sound sloppy only because they tend to be more SPL-oriented. You can always make a 15" system sound cleaner than an improperly-designed 10" system. As you probably know, I define "system" as being the woofer, plus the enclosure (order, volume, etc), plus the loading (the environment the subwoofer is trying to excite). -Alt
Follow Ups	szr:) :) :) :) :) - Bobby12many 14:45:10 09/26/02 I have a Shiva in my Z. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:50:00 09/26/02 15" = 15.00+ ET :) (n/m) - zads 14:50:22 09/26/02 N/A NEhow (n/m) - NoSuchSol 18:58:02 09/26/02 Oh my god...becky look at that sub...its so....Big - Z PYRATE 14:50:59 09/26/02 yes, yes it was (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 20:30:57 09/26/02 *drewl*... that is one crazy sweet ass sub! (n/m) - Neo Corleone 14:51:05 09/26/02 i have a 10" magnesium aluminum sub. - nixit(da][as) 14:52:00 09/26/02 You have a sub? Where? ;)>>> - 2 Zweet 14:57:03 09/26/02 There goes 1/2 a second on your 1/4 mile ET! ;-) - boileralum00 14:52:14 09/26/02 Aww man, Ill be doin 16.5s then! That stinks :) (n/m) - Bobby12many 14:53:41 09/26/02 your car is going to fall apart :) (n/m) - snave 14:52:22 09/26/02 are you going w/ bling bling? =) (n/m) - Z. 14:53:52 09/26/02 Gee, that wont slow you down at all! =P... OH, Idea!!!>>> - KraZeeZX (San Marcos/Austin) 14:54:22 09/26/02 I have that same amp in my Z pushing two 12's (n/m) - dragonballz 14:56:50 09/26/02 You using an external Xover? (n/m) - Bobby12many 14:59:27 09/26/02 yeah, my head unit also has a Xover though (n/m) - dragonballz 15:22:44 09/26/02 Re: yeah, my head unit also has a Xover though - Bobby12many 15:26:07 09/26/02 damn... I didn't know that Adire was getting this big - Altersys 15:04:33 09/26/02 re: - Bobby12many 15:10:33 09/26/02 yeah I still follow Adire's path even though - Altersys 15:29:27 09/26/02 Re: yeah I still follow Adire's path even though - Bobby12many 15:32:00 09/26/02 Dan's the man... as for discounts - Altersys 16:24:27 09/26/02 PPS, you didn't read my other post about>>> - Altersys 16:28:43 09/26/02 Re: PPS, you didn't read my other post about>>> - Bobby12many 16:36:42 09/26/02 oddly, I hate their components - Altersys 16:49:08 09/26/02 Re: install - Bobby12many 16:54:19 09/26/02 I'm guessing that upward-firing will sound the flattest - Altersys 16:57:27 09/26/02 Re: I'm guessing that upward-firing will sound the flattest - Bobby12many 17:17:21 09/26/02 I am!..BTW Hi Altersys =) (n/m) - khSQinKC 20:52:34 09/26/02 hey bro! - Altersys 14:22:55 09/27/02 Im open for employment! :) (n/m) - Bobby12many 16:33:32 09/26/02 lol... maybe he's hiring :) - Altersys 16:49:51 09/26/02 Something important for you to think about>>>>>> - Kenny (9 psi TT + NA) 15:10:29 09/26/02 It is a woofer made for sound quality..... - Bobby12many 15:14:28 09/26/02 I'm not sure what kind it was, but it WAS 15" and>>> - Kenny (9 psi TT + NA) 15:24:26 09/26/02 Thanks for the compliment on my Z :) (n/m) - Bobby12many 15:29:14 09/26/02 it's not size that matters for SQ, it's group delay - Altersys 16:26:49 09/26/02 I've got a 15" in my Blazer. Have fun :) (n/m) - sbsTT(MD) 15:25:30 09/26/02 Spare tire? (n/m) - Snoguitar 16:58:12 09/26/02 in that case I have 2 :) - sbsTT(MD) 22:48:51 09/26/02 It will be good for boomy bass if that's what you want. (n/m) - degradated 16:07:07 09/26/02 Not to be an ass, but you have no idea what you are saying.. - Bobby12many 16:22:37 09/26/02 a 15" speaker by nature is not going to be tight like a 10" - degradated 16:38:30 09/26/02 RE: You are digging yourself a hole.... - Bobby12many 16:48:22 09/26/02 he means more mass=slower response, just like you can move> - my91z 16:55:52 09/26/02 still not true. Again, read my post below - Altersys 17:06:13 09/26/02 Re: yes, it is true - my91z 17:24:04 09/26/02 You both are well learned.... BUt Ill settle it... - Bobby12many 17:29:11 09/26/02 EXACTLY.... what I am trying to say is>>> - Altersys 17:44:30 09/26/02 didn't mention properly also>>> - Altersys 17:59:36 09/26/02 yes, the eclosure order(sealed, ported, 4th, 6th order)> - my91z 18:07:11 09/26/02 I prefer low order enclosures for that reason...particularly - Altersys 20:07:25 09/26/02 oops, I guess LC cuircuit, the resistor is the damper (n/m) - my91z 17:30:05 09/26/02 it would seem so, but that's not true... - Altersys 16:52:21 09/26/02 Nice chief - you're making my Shiva look small... - blaZe(Dallas) 16:39:09 09/26/02 You bet! Its gonna be nutS! (n/m) - Bobby12many 16:49:26 09/26/02 Haha, I like how it's called the "Brahma"... - Jackie Chan (Boosted) 17:52:15 09/26/02 russel at Z1 motorsports will hook you up >>> - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 18:39:16 09/26/02 might just send a box of glass tho? lol (n/m) - FNFAZTT 18:56:13 09/26/02 lol, ouch. (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 20:27:22 09/26/02
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